Artifact Standard Multipliers

[Ordo Hereticus]

Special Note: This Thread is being restored in an out-of-order fashion, with the mechanics-relevant post coming first, and the remainder of the thread being placed below.

Originally Posted by Lord Gadigan

As mentioned in chat, I'm reorganizing and recategorizing artifacts so that there's more structure to their multipliers, which previously were intended to be a general power scale, but didn't really handle that well.

The issue is, I'm currently one category short from the ideal number. I invite people to tell me what categorization I'm most-missing (whether it's something to go with the current artifacts, or something that some new group of artifacts would fit).

Note that higher categories take precedence over lower ones when something fits multiple.

The first category is Mana-Hungry Quirky Low-End (Power Level x1, XP x100). They're bad for artifacts, devour mana in large quantities with a poor conversion rate for actual power gain, and tend to be themed around a specific individual's quirks and preoccupations. That currently contains:

Doctor Grooze's Stunningly Complex Camera
Mr. Zazoo's Amazing Stationary
Mrs. Waldridge's Kangaroo-Detecting Fork
The Hypnotic Fanny Pack of Ronnie Quoz

The second category is Basic Combat (Power Level and XP x10). Those artifacts have a main purpose of combat. They can have other powers too; they're artifacts, after all, but they're basically a really good weapon or armor. That currently contains:

Blade of the High Heaven
Danmaku Princess's Bullet-Rod
Hunter's Whip
Imperator's Right Hand
Magical Card Princess's Sparkling Mystic Wonder Wand
Morphos Blade
Rod of the Unfleshed
Ruin's Furnace
Spear of the Dragonkiller
Surgeon General's Knife
The Dark Fire
The Glorious Blade
Tweed Disaster
War's Wind

The third category is General Utility (Power Level and XP x11). It is the general pile that artifacts that don't fall anywhere else on the chain end up. That currently contains:

Blood Gate Torii
Caduceus of the Prime Healer
Ebon Book
Ego's Mind
Gressingham's Configuration
Joker's Deck
Mattock of the Diamond Mind
Mirror of Dark Realities
Space-Stepping Boots of Maergerys
Staff of the Marsh
The Mobile Labyrinth of Fazhi Woo
The Ruby Slippers
The Silver Implements
The True Meaning of Love
The Twelve Balls of Calibrinatrii the Juggler

The fourth category is Local Governing (Power Level and XP x12). These artifacts take sway over a local area, assert a position of authority, and grant their wielder privileges of that position in addition to potential combat and general uses. That currently contains:

Anathema Crown
Blood Grail of the Red Sun Prince
Chalice of Seven Glories
Citadel of the Fisherman
Crown of Ord Bhelerieth
Crown of the First Trees
Crowns of the Wyrmsovereign
Master Control System
Overlord's Armor
Regent's Badge
The Clown Sheriff's Codpiece
The Writhing Idol
Twelve Realms' Defense Grid
Winter's Crown

The fifth category is Sentient Force (Power Level and XP x13). These artifacts are intelligent, capable of acting autonomously or guiding/assisting their wielders. That currently contains:

Ishmenvanylvok, Blade of Crimson Ruin
Magellan's Vessel (Custom)
The Abominable Murmer
The Institute
The Voice Manifest
The Worldleech Mind

The sixth category is Power Conduit (Power Level and XP x14). Their main purpose is to link the wielder with an expected-to-be-higher-Level power and allow that power to act around restrictions in some ways by helping the wielder/granting powers. That currently contains:

Cabinet of the Viper
Rod of Master Chalberokh
Rod of the Death God
Seal of the Imperial Heavens
Solar Cornucopia of Remiel Helios
Tablets of the Seven Ancients
Tome of the Silent Apostle

The seventh category is Plot-Significant Vague Set Artifact (Power Level and XP x15). Their powers are less well-defined than others, and they exist as sets whose purpose is more to propel major elements of the multiverse than it is to offer specific powers to a given wielder (though they do that too). That currently contains:

Acid Chosen Regalia
Air Chosen Regalia
Darkness Chosen Regalia
Earth Chosen Regalia
Electrical Chosen Regalia
Energy Chosen Regalia
Fire Chosen Regalia
Ice Chosen Regalia
Incremortis
Isquardis
Kulurentes
Light Chosen Regalia
Magic Chosen Regalia
Malantres
Naphlus
Physical Chosen Regalia
Psychic Chosen Regalia
Technology Chosen Regalia
Water Chosen Regalia

The eighth category is Mass Production (Power Level and XP x16). It is a group for artifacts that produce other permanent things on a regular basis, usually in large numbers. That currently contains:

Daemon Gate Rune
Egg of Creation
Endless Tome
Forgemaster's Hammer
Knives of the Paramount Chef
The Dacchenburg Engine

The ninth category is Superior Combat (Power Level and XP x17). They have a focus on combat, but operate in an overwhelming or hax manner that sets them above the Basic Combat grouping in terms of power. One of them alone would be enough to turn many combats around. That currently contains:

Apocalypse Collection
Bardiche of Conquerers
Blackwell's Diagram
Chronophone
Dome of the Lich Lord
Eightfold Imaginary Weapon
Impossible Maul
Invulnerable Raiment
Red Scissors
Skybreaker Hammer
The Angel Flayer's Knives
The Archmage's Knife
The Blade Card
The Crystal Card
The Eternal Pyre
The Fortress Card
The Manifold Paladin's Regalia
The Ramthorian Hammers
The Sunhand
The Tenfold Blade
The Voidhand
The World Ender Hammer
Worldpyre Staff

The tenth category is World Reshaping (Power Level and XP x18). It is a category for artifacts that, if used unopposed, would reshape the world/dimension that they are in in some significant and lasting manner. That currently contains:

Aeon Diadem
Apocalypse Bell
Black Chartist's Map
Crystal of Unconquered Winter
Decanter of the Primal Ocean
Doom Pendulum
Fulsome Masterplan
Geomantic Keystone
Root Error
Scales of Endless Hunger
The Flame Virus
The Great Timepiece
The Labyrinthine Tome
World-Governing Compass

The eleventh category is Omnicompetent (Power Level and XP x19). It is for grab-bag artifacts that are capable of doing nearly anything within broad categories. That currently contains:

Grand Configuration
Lamp of the Wishmaster
The Infinite Catalogues

The twelfth category is Primary Universal Force (Power Level and XP x20). It is for artifacts that assert themselves above other powers and act as a broadly superior power on a vast scale. If unopposed, one could alter some facet of the universe it is in. That currently contains:

Crown of Primordial Ice
Fulcrum of Day
Fulcrum of Night
Origin Pipes
The Compass and the Arrow
The Mask of Conicus

The thirteenth category is Blue Mage (Power Level and XP x21). It is for artifacts that readily gain new powers in some reliable manner, allowing their capabilities to easily expand over time. That currently contains:

Census of the Universe
Epitath of the Lost
The Infinite Key
The Rose

The fourteenth category is Hard Trump T3-Granter (Power Level and XP x22). It is for artifacts that grant or grant-and-elevate a category of power that has T3 or T3-equivalent status; if the wielder already has the related skillset, they become even better. They tend to auto-beat many things that are of lower Tiers. That currently contains:

Apollyon Rod
Cauldron of Serpents
Cosmos Crown
Nemesis Mask
Reaperglass Implements
The Devil's Paperwork
The One Ledger
Tome of Undeath Eternal


The fifteenth category is Anomalous Undefined (Power Level and XP x23).



The sixteeth category is Umatchable Above-Bracket Power (Power Level and XP x24). It is for artifacts that ignore their own Level in some way and offer some multiverse/setting-shaking power that bypasses general character power bands unless directly and actively opposed. That currently contains:

Book of Lorekeepers
First Eternal Grimoire of Talrusion
Fourth Eternal Grimioire of Talrusion
Second Eternal Grimoire of Talrusion
Third Eternal Grimoire of Talrusion

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Other notes:

Aegis, Excalibur, and Masamune are becoming Weapons of Legend. Naria is getting a Weapon of Legend sub-spec. They act more like what those are than they do standard artifacts, even mono-aspect combat ones.

The Cosmos Suit is a unique item built by the Overlord to channel multiple Cosmos Crown aspects at once. It could become an Aspect of the Crown at some point, but for now it's its own unique item.

The Mirror of Lyndiros is a Unique Item, but isn't an artifact.

I'm considering flipping the order of Basic Combat and General Utility just to have the catch-all grab-bag at the bottom instead of a weird one-rung-up where it's an exception to 'things fall into their highest category'.

This isn't going to be a retcon in-setting. Artifacts (and new Weapons of Legend) are getting changed now; people remember that they were different before.

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[Ordo Hereticus]

Can I get a list of Artifacts sorted by their Standard Multipliers, as well as a list of confirmed existing artifacts from things like Megaquests that aren't in PC hands yet? I'm considering doing some updated catalog thing of artifacts.

Here's the list. Some of the levels are likely not accurate, due to being pulled from the Shop. Most of the multiplier-less ones have been pulled from Giga-PPT, the Megaquest-PPT, or the Things section of the Nexus subforum.


Artifacts, Owned by PCs
x20 Multipier

*Aeon Diadem (Level 59, 1,185,393,606 XP, # XP Required, Standard Multiplier x20 (Raised to x400 to bypass Level 60 cap)) (Owned by Kit)

*The Infinite Key (Standard Multiplier x20) (Owned by Darston)


x18 Multiplier

*Census of the Universe- (Artifact, Level 59, 0 XP, 1,497,600,000 XP Required) (Standard Multiplier x18, Raised to x180 to bypass Level 60 jump) (Owned by Patchy)

*Lamp of the Wishmaster- (Artifact, Level 39, 0 XP, # XP Required, Standard Multiplier x18) (Owned by Patchy)

*The Manifold Paladin's Regalia- (Artifact, Level 80, 0 XP, # XP Required, Standard Multiplier x18) (Owned by Geddoe)


x16 Multiplier

*Crown of Primordial Ice- (Artifact, Level 80, 0 XP, # XP Required, Standard Multiplier x16) (Owned by Geddoe)


x15 Multiplier

*Dark Chosen Regalia (Level 8, 202,215 XP, 125,000 XP Required) (Standard Mutliplier x15) (Owned by Roy)

*Crowns of the Wyrmsovereign- (Level 59, 0 XP, # XP Required, Standard Multiplier x15, Raised to x60 to bypass Level 59) (Owned by Kazivon)

*Energy Chosen Regalia (Level 59, 0 XP, # XP Required, Standard Multiplier x15 (Raised to bypass Level 60 cap, check artifact levelup value thread for info)) (Owned by Zeo)

*Scales of Endless Hunger- (Artifact, Level 79, 0 XP, # XP Required, Standard Multiplier x15) (Owned by Roy)

*The Sunhand- (Artifact, Level 59, 0 XP, # XP Required, Standard Multiplier x15 (Standard Multiplier raised to x?? to bypass Level 60 cap)) (Owned by Darston)

*Twelve Realms' Defense Grid (Level 79, 0 XP, 3,873,000,000 XP Required) (Standard Multiplier x15, Raised to x150 to bypass Level 80 Cap) (Owned by Volatilis)


x14 Multiplier

*Malantres (Level 1, 0 XP, 1,000 XP Required) (Standard Multiplier x14) (Owned by Lilian)

*Naphlus (Level 6, 745 XP, 12,500 XP Required) (Standard Multiplier x14) (Owned by Lili)

*The Labyrinthine Tome- (Artifact, Level 79, 0 XP, # XP Required, Standard Multiplier x14) (Owned by Kit)


x13 Multipier

*Cabinet of the Viper (Level 40, 0 XP, # XP Required, Standard Multiplier x13) (Owned by Kit)

*The Angel Flayer's Knives- (Artifact, Level 80, 0 XP, # XP Required, Standard Multiplier x13) (Bound to Anathema)

*The Eternal Pyre (Artifact, Level 59, 600,000 XP, # XP Required, Standard Multiplier x13) (Owned by Lili)

*The Silver Implements- (Artifact, Level 80, 0 XP, # XP Required, Standard Multiplier x13) (Owned by Celas)

*The Writhing Idol- (Artifact, Level 60, 0 XP, # XP Required, Standard Multiplier x13) (Owned by Orkanith)


x12 Multiplier

*Citadel of the Fisherman (Level 39, 0 XP, # XP Required) (Standard Multiplier x12) (Bound to Dulcinea)

*Egg of Creation (Level 59, 0 XP, 998,400,000 XP Required, Standard Multiplier x12, Standard Multiplier raised to x120 to bypass level 60 cap) (Owned by Eva)

Tablets of the Seven Ancients- (Level 39, 801,405,272 XP, 39,360,000 XP Required, Standard Multiplier x12, Raised to x48 to bypass Level 39) (Owned by Caelum "Cael" Aetherius)

*The Abominable Murmur- (Artifact, Level 60, 0 XP, # XP Required, Standard Multiplier x12) (Owned by Tolva)

*The Dacchenburg Engine- (Artifact, Level 79*, 0 XP, 998,400,000 XP required, Standard Multiplier of x12, raised to x120 to bypass level 60) (Owned by Lili)

*The Tenfold Blade- (Artifact, Level 75, 0 XP, # XP Required, Standard Multiplier x12) (Owned by Darston)


x11 Multipier

*Caduceus of the Prime Healer- (Level 60, 0 XP, # XP Required) (Standard Multiplier x11) (Owned by Nole)

*Mattock of the Diamond Mind (Level 60, 0 XP, # XP Required, Standard Multiplier x11) (Owned by Kit)

*The Worldleech Mind- (Artifact, Level 39, 2,000,000 XP, 9,300,000 XP Required, Standard Multiplier x11) (Owned by The Roulette Master)


x10 Multipier

*Blood Gate Torii- (Artifact, Level 61, 0 XP, # XP Required, Standard Multiplier x10) (Owned by Roy)

*Blood Grail of the Red Sun Prince- (Artifact, Level 59, 0 XP, # XP Required, Standard Multiplier x10, Standard Multiplier raised to x <CHECK CAPS THREAD> to bypass Level 60 cap) (Owned by Anathema)

*Crown of the First Trees- (Artifact, Level 30, 0 XP, 3,700,000 XP Required, Standard Multiplier x10) (Owned by Kelver)

*Joker's Deck- (Artifact, Level 60, 0 XP, # XP Required, Standard Multiplier x10) (Owned by Kit)

*Magical Card Princess's Sparkling Mystic Wonder Wand - (Artifact, Level 59, 0 XP, 832,000,000 XP Required) (Standard Multiplier x10, Raised to x100 to break Level 60 cap) (Bound to Tia)

*Master Control System- (Artifact, Level 60, 0 XP, # XP Required, Standard Multiplier x10) (Owned by Zeo)

*The Clown Sheriff's Codpiece (Level 60, 0 XP, # XP Required, Standard Multiplier x10) (Owned by Kazivon)

*The Glorious Blade- (Artifact, Level 39, 73,150,000 XP, 82,000,000 XP Required, Standard Multiplier x10, Rasied to x100 to bypass Level 40 jump) (owned by Reyd)

*The Rose (Level 39, 0 XP, # XP Required, Standard Multplier x10 (Standard multiplier raised to x200 to bypass Level 40)) (Owned by Elyion)

*The Twelve Balls of Calibrinatrii the Juggler (Level 60, 0 XP, # XP Required, Standard Multiplier x10) (Owned by Kit)


x1 Multiplier

*Doctor Grooze's Stunningly Complex Camera- (Artifact, Level 39, 0 XP, # XP Required, Standard Multiplier x100, Power x1) (Owned by Dulcinea)

*Mrs. Waldridge's Kangaroo-Detecting Fork- (Artifact, Level 20, 56,702 XP, # XP Required, Standard Multiplier x100, Power x1) (Owned by Orkanith)

*Mr. Zazoo's Amazing Stationary (Level 1, 0 XP, 2,000,000 XP Required) (Standard Multiplier x100, Power x1) (Owned by Lili)

*The Hypnotic Fanny Pack of Ronnie Quoz- (Artifact, Level 20, 0 XP, # XP Required, Standard Multiplier x100, Power x1) (Owned by Salkat)



Unknown Multiplier

*Exodeus (Level 15, Tied to user level) (Owned by Kevin Dravis)

*Hejirias (Level 19, Tied to user level) (Owned by Shauni)






Artifacts, Owned by Others, Known Multiplier
x24 Multipier

%*Second Eternal Grimoire of Talrusion (Standard Multiplier x24)


x22 Multipier

%*Book of Lorekeepers (Standard Multiplier x22) (Owned by Naria Zalderos)


x18 Multipier

%*Daemon Gate Rune (Standard Multiplier x18) (Owned by Naria Zalderos)


x15 Multipier

*Forgemaster's Hammer (Standard Multiplier x15) (Owned by Goldenhammer)


x14 Multipier

*Incremortis (AKA That One Other Demon King Artifact Everyone Forgot About. Presumably also a x14 Multiplier. Possibly held by Axim?)

*Isquardis (Level 6, 0 XP, 15,000 XP Required) (Standard Multiplier x14) (Owned by Naria)

*Kulurentes (Standard Multiplier x14) (Owned by ???)



x12 Multipier

%*Aegis (Standard Multiplier x12) (Owned by Goldenhammer)

%*Excalibur (Standard Multiplier x12) (Owned by Goldenhammer)

%*Masamune (Standard Multiplier x12) (Owned by Goldenhammer)


x10 Multipier

%*Bardiche of Conquerors (Standard Multiplier x10) (Owned by Naria Zalderos)

%*Hunter's Whip (Standard Multiplier x10) (Owned by VonDurion)

%*Morphos Blade (Standard Multiplier x10) (Owned by Naria Zalderos)





Artifacts, Owned By Others, No Multiplier Given
*Apocalypse Collection (Owned by Mike. May have been lost as it turned up in CAIN's Loot Room)

*Blackwell's Diagram (Owned by Blackwell. May have been lost as it turned up in CAIN's Loot Room)

Black General of the Fifth Rift: Yemelsech the Night-Bearer's Artifact Orb (Name not provided. It's an artifact, though)

*Chalice of Seven Glories (Owned by Overlord Vaeros Callamargh the Unmatchable. May have been lost as it turned up in CAIN's Loot Room)

*Chronophone (Owned by Bekkler. May have been lost as it turned up in CAIN's Loot Room)

*Cosmos Crown (Owned by The Overlord of Monkey Castle)

*Crown of Ord Bhelerieth (Owned by Ord'Bhelerieth, King of Fae. May have been lost as it turned up in CAIN's Loot Room)

*Crystal of Unconquered Winter (Owned by The Astounding Mister Burnstring. May have been lost as it turned up in CAIN's Loot Room)

*Danmaku Princess's Bullet-Rod (Owned by Danmaku Princess Ettalene. May have been lost as it turned up in CAIN's Loot Room)

*Dome of the Lich Lord (Owned by The Lich King. May have been lost as it turned up in CAIN's Loot Room)

*Ego's Mind (Owned by Doctor Ego. May have been lost as it turned up in CAIN's Loot Room)

*Eightfold Imaginary Weapon (Owned by Overlord Vaeros Callamargh the Unmatchable. May have been lost as it turned up in CAIN's Loot Room)

*Epitath of the Lost (Owned by Shekya, Guardian of Remorse)

*Gressingham's Configuration (Owned by Leo Solomon)

*Imperator's Right Hand (Owned by Hand of the Imperator. May have been lost as it turned up in CAIN's Loot Room)

*Impossible Maul (Owned by Gingphatts the Unstoppable. May have been lost as it turned up in CAIN's Loot Room)

Naria's Unnamed Mirror Artifact (Owned by Naria)

Naria's Unnamed Tablet Artifact (Owned by Naria)

*Origin Pipes (Owned by The Piper at the Dawn of Existence. May have been lost as it turned up in CAIN's Loot Room)

*Overlord's Armor (Owned by The Overlord of Monkey Castle. May have been lost as it turned up in CAIN's Loot Room)

*Reaperglass Implements (Owned by Aikhra Morvauhl)

*Red Scissors (Owned by Triumphant Kyri Zetmar. May have been lost as it turned up in CAIN's Loot Room)

*Regent's Badge (Owned by That Bird. May have been lost as it turned up in CAIN's Loot Room)

*Rod of the Death God (Owned by Epshut Amuntah. May have been lost as it turned up in CAIN's Loot Room)

*Rod of the Unfleshed (Owned by the Unfleshed Goat. May have been lost as it turned up in CAIN's Loot Room)

*Root Error (Owned by Tsayikk. May have been lost as it turned up in CAIN's Loot Room)

*Ruin's Furnace (Owned by Tasshaemot the Ruinous Wyrm. May have been lost as it turned up in CAIN's Loot Room)

*Seal of the Imperial Heavens (Owned by Functionary Zhu. May have been lost as it turned up in CAIN's Loot Room)

*Spear of the Dragonkiller (Owned by Overlord Vaeros Callamargh the Unmatchable. May have been lost as it turned up in CAIN's Loot Room)

*Staff of the Marsh (Owned by Erdlue the Marsh-Keeper. May have been lost as it turned up in CAIN's Loot Room)

*Surgeon General's Scalpel (Owned by the Surgeon General. May have been lost as it turned up in CAIN's Loot Room)

*The Compass and The Arrow (Owned by Garse Prektus. May have been lost as it turned up in CAIN's Loot Room)

*The Dark Fire (Owned by Brakkanor, Dark Master of Fire. May have been lost as it turned up in CAIN's Loot Room)

*The Flame Virus (Owned by Ekmort E. Isenrod. May have been lost as it turned up in CAIN's Loot Room)

*The Infinite Catalogues (Owned by the Cataloguers of Eternity)

*The Institute (Owned by Doctor Tremarris. May have been lost as it turned up in CAIN's Loot Room)

*The Mobile Labyrinth of Fazhi Woo (Owned by Fazhai Woo. May have been lost as it turned up in CAIN's Loot Room)

*The One Ledger (Owned by Forcystus)

*The True Meaning of Love (Owned by Senor Diabolico. May have been lost as it turned up in CAIN's Loot Room)

*Tome of the Silent Apostle (Owned by Overlord Vaeros Callamargh the Unmatchable. May have been lost as it turned up in CAIN's Loot Room)

*Tweed Disaster (Owned by Berlarry. May have been lost as it turned up in CAIN's Loot Room)

*War's Wind (Owned by General Verngrass Wethryll. May have been lost as it turned up in CAIN's Loot Room)

*Winter's Crown (Owned by Waerdael. May have been lost as it turned up in CAIN's Loot Room)

*World-Governing Compass (Owned by Overlord Vaeros Callamargh the Unmatchable. May have been lost as it turned up in CAIN's Loot Room)

*Worldpyre Staff (Owned by General Redscar. May have been lost as it turned up in CAIN's Loot Room)




Artifacts, Out There Somewhere, No Multiplier Given
*Apollyon Rod (Previously owned by Cordelia. Turned up in CAIN's Loot Room)

*Decanter of the Primal Ocean (Offered as one of the Knot of Trelhais' Rewards)

*(Elder Geist Artifact)

Eternal Grimoires of Talrusion (There's more than one of these. Might be x24s like the Second.)

*Fire Chosen Regalia (Was owned by Embra, but given how these react to their owners' defeat, could be anywhere)

*Fulcrum of Day

*Fulcrum of Night

*Invulnerable Raiment (Offered as one of the Knot of Trelhais' Rewards)

*Magellan's Vessel (Custom) (Offered as a prize in the CAIN Loot Room)

*Nemesis Mask (Lost during CAIN. Probably still out there)

*(Serpent Blessed Artifact)

*Solar Cournicopia of Remiel Helios (In Sunthrone somewhere)

*The Devil's Paperwork (Previously owned by Forcystus. Turned up in CAIN's Loot Room.)

*The Great Timepiece

*The Mask of Conicus

*The Skybreaker (Either owned by Axim, Ramtheil the Great, or laying about in some dungeon somewhere)




Maybe Artifacts

These things weren't stated as being artifacts, but were notable items when mentioned.
*Apocalypse Bell (Previously owned by Tjormod before his curses)

*Blade of the High Heaven (Previously owned by Tjormod before his curses)

*Cosmos Suit (Might actually be an Aspect of the Cosmos Crown)

*Endless Tome (Previously owned by Tjormod before his curses)

*Fulsome Masterplan (Owned by Aikhra Morvauhl)

*Mirror of Lyndiros (Owned by Blackwell before all that business with the Abstracts. Probably destroyed due to Markannion)

*Rod of Master Chalberokh (Used by the original master of the Mansion of Horrors to build the place)

*The Archmage's Knife (Owned by Talrusion at one point)

This is the point at which the top post appeared in the original thread

11:25 PM] Gadigan: Ideas I've had so far include some sort of 'Reality Constructing' one that makes dimensional spaces/areas/dungeons and takes things like the Labrynthine Tome and Citadel of the Fisherman and Defense Grid and groups them together, but I don't feel like that's quite different enough to make it its own distinct threshold of power
[11:26 PM] Gadigan: Another one was some sort of cursed/backlash artifact that requires sacrifices/some sort of price to pay for the power it grants. Don't have any of those yet, though, and I'm not sold on it being a necessary actual category either - since the power from it could vary and encompass a lot of the other groups, meaning it'd need to be high on the ladder to have things actually sort into it or would feel incomplete
[11:27 PM] Gadigan: Another one I considered was something summon/entity focused, but again I think that's more a powerset thematic/element rather than a power-broadness-tier-category-thing
[11:27 PM] Celas: ah
[11:27 PM] Celas: hey
[11:27 PM] Celas: that reminds me
[11:27 PM] Gadigan: Yes?
[11:27 PM] Celas: One of my operating theories on a setting-scale
[11:28 PM] Celas: has been that there are basically prime Subtype-linked Artifacts running around for more things than we've seen
[11:28 PM] Celas: I keep meaning to ask about that
[11:28 PM] Celas: since all I have to go on are "Demon King Artifacts are linked to the entire Demon subtype, and also Valcont ones exist"
[11:29 PM] Gadigan: There are. Not necessarily on as broad or setting-critical a scale, but there absolutely are
[11:29 PM] Celas: So I'd been assuming that category existed already!
[11:29 PM] Celas: hah, neat
[11:33 PM] Gadigan: Well, I'll post this bit in the thread

We'll probably want to make a big post (perhaps pinnable) combining this thread, the 'what can my artifact do' thread, and the XP-multipliers-for-capbreaking thread once this is done.


More Artifacts have been found! I missed these from the People entries the first time. And one from a Seirei-thread. I also went trawling for confirmed-unique-items that sounded like they might be artifact-tier in Giga-PPT. (I'm assuming you already trawled Things for artifacts. If you didn't, let me know and I'll look for likely candidates)


Artifacts

Anathema Crown (Owned by Aikhra Morvauhl)

The Voice Manifest (Owned by Embra Banefire)

The Ruby Slippers (Owned by Vivian Greene)



Things That Might Be Artifacts- via Giga-PPT

*Airenglar, the Holy Axe (The weapon used to kill The Demon King, previously held in the Celestial City's most guarded reliquary)

*Black Blade of Oblivion (Personal weapon of Maleficus)

*Black-Silken Cord (Relic created and owned by Zexatra Archelbestys. Can tether together worlds, rendering normally tenuous portals and connections permanent.)

*Chariot of the New Reality (It's the chariot that will survive the eventual resetting of the universe after the final battle. If that doesn't qualify it as artifact-tier, I'm not sure what would)

*Clap of Bournethaine (Legendary hammer owned by Ganseed the Collector. Mentioned in the same book as the Skybreaker)

*Doom Pendulum (Noted scientific and technological marvel held by the Techylmann Institute in the City of Night. If it's notable for that organisation, it's clearly powerful)

*Ebon Book (The main manuscript of the Joymerchants)

*Grand Configuration (Titanic magical array and the greatest creation of the Blackclad Order)

*Grand Compass of Order (Thrandark's abandoned project to bring Order to the Universe.)

*Grand Wheel of Amelia Photos (In another timeline, Amelia Photos became Source Guardian of Light and had this as her single most notable work and item)

*Hamandraphalir the Giantcrusher (Legendary hammer. Mentioned in the same book as the Skybreaker)

*Instakill Shotgun (Notable item previously owned by a Level 100-199 colleage of Dalnetheros, Goddess of Architecture)

*Lord Maxwell's Hammer (Legendary hammer. May 'just' be a Weapon of Legend, but Lord Maxwell ascended to godhood...)

*Mirror of Heaven (Mirror held by the Ministries of Heaven in Asenreyl. Could trigger the Skull-Faced Lion's weakness)

*Mjolnir (Legendary hammer. May 'just' be a Weapon of Legend)

*Rajarafeldragos (Legendary hammer. May 'just' be a Weapon of Legend)

*Space-Stepping Boots of Maergerys (Nega-Kit found these in his quest to redeem himself for losing a minor artifact of the Church of Naria. Suggested to be the spatial-equivalent of the Aeon Diadem)

*The Blade Card (One of the three Prime Arcana, the most potent of Arcanist magics. Are Artifact spells a thing?)

*The Crystal Card (One of the three Prime Arcana, the most potent of Arcanist magics. Are Artifact spells a thing?)

*The Fortress Card (One of the three Prime Arcana, the most potent of Arcanist magics. Are Artifact spells a thing?)

*The Ramthorian Hammers (Legendary hammer(s). Mentioned in the same book as the Skybreaker. Given their plural name, may be an artifact with several weapon aspects)

*The World Ender Hammer (Legendary hammer. Mentioned in the same book as the Skybreaker. Previously owned by an underling of Renfeld)

*The Voidhand (Nega-Darston's equivalent to The Sunhand)

*Trident of Rakhulmas (Currently in pieces that need collecting to be put back together)

*Unidentified Text of Talrusion #1 (A book of great power. Used in the epic clash between Doctor Beak and the Man in the Hazmat Suit. Present whereabouts unknown, taken by Gillingman. Might be one of the Eternal Grimoires)

*Unidentified Text of Talrusion #2 (A book of great power. Used in the epic clash between Doctor Beak and the Man in the Hazmat Suit. Present whereabouts unknown, taken by Gillingman. Might be one of the Eternal Grimoires)




Other notes

The Immortal Emperor was noted as having several artifacts (and notably being able to create them). He also died in CAIN and was sent to Storage, so those artifacts are presumably floating around somewhere.

Gholu-Rashok, the Skull-Faced Lion gained six artifacts from the Knot of Trelhais before he died and got Render-grabbed. Those artifacts might still be around somewhere.

Nega-Lili was empowered by an artifact that fell from Doc's spaceship and broke (and later was used to make the Nega-Golem)

Doctor Beak's Cane, Coat and Mask were notable items, and taken by Gillingman when the Doctor exploded that one time.

This isn't including other obvious owners of artifacts, like the God of Items, Renfeld and Naria.

Category 4:

Anathema Crown (Owned by Aikhra Morvauhl)

Category 5:

The Voice Manifest (Owned by Embra Banefire)

Category 3:

The Ruby Slippers (Owned by Vivian Greene)

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Airenglar, the Holy Axe - unique Axe
Black Blade of Oblivion - Weapon of Legend and Sword
Black-Silken Cord - unique Magic Item
Chariot of the New Reality - Not an artifact! Falls into the same category as the Divinity Breaker, Disaster Seeker, and Baelung Knife. Some kind of Tier 0 undefinable super-item.
Clap of Bournethaine - unique Hammer
Doom Pendulum - Artifact, Category 10
Ebon Book- Artifact, Category 3
Grand Configuration - Artifact, Category 11
Grand Compass of Order - Would be an artifact, but isn't getting onto the list because it never got made
Grand Wheel of Amelia Photos - Would be an artifact, but isn't getting onto the list because it never got made. See my note at the post's end about 'timelines' and 'negaverses'.
Hamandraphalir the Giantcrusher - Unique Hammer
Instakill Shotgun - Unique Gun
Lord Maxwell's Hammer - Weapon of Legend and Hammer
Mirror of Heaven - Unique Magic Item that can double as a Shield
Mjolnir - Weapon of Legend and Hammer
Rajarafeldragos - Weapon of Legend and Hammer
Space-Stepping Boots of Maergerys - Artifact, Category 3
The Blade Card - Artifact, Category 9
The Crystal Card - Artifact, Category 9
The Fortress Card - Artifact, Category 9
The Ramthorian Hammers - Artifact, Category 9
The World Ender Hammer - Artifact, Category 9
The Voidhand - Artifact, Category 9
Unidentified Text of Talrusion #1 - One of the already-accounted-for Eternal Grimoires
Unidentified Text of Talrusion #2 - One of the already-accounted-for Eternal Grimoires

The Immortal Emperor was noted as having several artifacts (and notably being able to create them). He also died in CAIN and was sent to Storage, so those artifacts are presumably floating around somewhere.

Gholu-Rashok, the Skull-Faced Lion gained six artifacts from the Knot of Trelhais before he died and got Render-grabbed. Those artifacts might still be around somewhere.

Nega-Lili was empowered by an artifact that fell from Doc's spaceship and broke (and later was used to make the Nega-Golem)

Doctor Beak's Cane, Coat and Mask were notable items, and taken by Gillingman when the Doctor exploded that one time.

This isn't including other obvious owners of artifacts, like the God of Items, Renfeld and Naria.


Not adding more unnamed ones to the list right now; I don't want to clutter it too much with NPC stuff that hasn't even been shown off.

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On the note of timelines and negaverses: The idea, at some point, seems to have gotten into some of the playerbase's head (at least so far as I can tell) that the alternate timelines and negaverses are larger than they are and cover more than they do. Anything above Level 400 is - with a few exceptions from special areas and Ascension events - not going to have alt-timeline equivalents. Beings of 400 on up tend to be themselves across timelines, able to multitask across a bunch of different universes where required. This is part of why Echo Providence could do its job so well - it's above the bracket of timeline-creating things and can just shut them down. A time-focused Ascension would mess with this, and some high-end Ascension things have their own methods of time-messery and parallel-reality-creation that skew higher, but they're not normal and not what people are going to usually be running into.

A lot of this is my fault. I've been calling some of the different cannonicities of the BA setting timelines as shorthand, and that's been getting things mixed up with the other more-in-setting basic 'timelines'. When I say 'dream timeline' or 'Ascension timeline', I'm not talking about other timelines that characters can go out and visit. They aren't even part of the BA. They're other versions of the setting that are confined to themselves (the first being my dreams that I based a lot of the setting off of, the second being my plan for the Ascensions and such without PCs being involved). Things from them can spur ideas for the BA (and pretty much are the main sources of content for it), but they're different things and not visitable.

Add a new Category directly below the top one 'Anomalous Undefined'. Then make all artifacts standard multipliers based on their category. The first one stays x1 (x100 XP Needed), then it jumps to x10, then it works its way up to x24.

To head off requests for such or questions about such, there will not be delevelling of artifacts, there will not be artifact text changes beyond the standard multipliers, there will not be XP refunds.